Comments on: Clojure: a Lisp-dialect for the JVM - with focus on Functional and Concurrent Programming http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/ Down To The Bone Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:03:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Jonas http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-19808 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:26:48 +0000 http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-19808 <p>Ray, thanks for your comment.</p> <p>I played some with CAL when it was released a year ago or so. It is indeed a very interesting effort. By the industry for industrial usage, pragmatic view. In some parts spec compliant with Haskell. Their Gems and GemCutter seemed interesting as well. What I didn't like was that their integration with Java is very primitive. A standard FFI and not close to seamless integration as f.e. Scala has. Have you any experiences with it?</p> Ray, thanks for your comment.

I played some with CAL when it was released a year ago or so. It is indeed a very interesting effort. By the industry for industrial usage, pragmatic view. In some parts spec compliant with Haskell. Their Gems and GemCutter seemed interesting as well. What I didn’t like was that their integration with Java is very primitive. A standard FFI and not close to seamless integration as f.e. Scala has. Have you any experiences with it?

]]> by: Ray http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-19781 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:03:40 +0000 http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-19781 <p>I'm playing with Scala, but I found <a href="http://labs.businessobjects.com/cal/" title="The Open Quark Framework for Java and the CAL Language"></a> over at the Business Objects site. It's a Haskell like language that compiles to lava byte code.</p> I’m playing with Scala, but I found over at the Business Objects site. It’s a Haskell like language that compiles to lava byte code.

]]> by: Jonas http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-15064 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:19:52 +0000 http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-15064 <p>Joseph,</p> <p>I agree, Scala has most of it (the different semantics of 'var' and 'val' for side-effect free code, pure functional style as well as OO very similar to Java, list comprehensions, actor-style concurrency, you name it...). </p> <p>I am very fond of Scala and is the language that I think is most likely to succeed to be 'the next Java' or 'Java done right' if you want to put it that way. </p> <p>But clojure speaks to me with its Lisp style syntax and support for true macros (in the Lisp sense). However it has a long way to go to be able to truly compete with Scala.</p> Joseph,

I agree, Scala has most of it (the different semantics of ‘var’ and ‘val’ for side-effect free code, pure functional style as well as OO very similar to Java, list comprehensions, actor-style concurrency, you name it…).

I am very fond of Scala and is the language that I think is most likely to succeed to be ‘the next Java’ or ‘Java done right’ if you want to put it that way.

But clojure speaks to me with its Lisp style syntax and support for true macros (in the Lisp sense). However it has a long way to go to be able to truly compete with Scala.

]]> by: Joseph Wofford http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-15062 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:58:35 +0000 http://jonasboner.com/2007/10/18/clojure-a-lisp-dialect-for-the-jvm-with-focus-on-functional-and-concurrent-programming/#comment-15062 <p>Scala seems to have most of those features: http://www.scala-lang.org</p> Scala seems to have most of those features: http://www.scala-lang.org

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